An interview with Third Project Curatorial about cloud 9, opening soon in the Flatiron Project Space

Due to this week’s campus closure and SVA’s cancellation of all school events through March 20th, the opening and reception for cloud 9 have been postponed. We will post an update about its rescheduling when more information becomes available.


In anticipation of this week’s opening of cloud 9  in the Flatiron Project Space, we sent a few questions to VCS alumnae Victoria Hristoff and Gabriella Moreno, a.k.a. Third Project Curatorial, who organized the show. In the following exchange, Victoria and Gabriella discuss their lives after graduating from SVA and their curatorial work together, and provide some comments about cloud 9.


You both graduated from VCS in 2016, so you’ve been out in the art world for a few years now. What have your post-SVA lives been like?

Post-VCS, life has been a little bit of everything for both of us and a whole lot of grad school for Victoria, who is currently in her last semester of her MPS in Art Therapy at SVA. Gabriella has been working full time since graduating in 2016 and currently works in the Prints & Drawings Department of Swann Auction Galleries, the oldest auction house in New York City. We have both maintained our studio practices—Gabriella shares a studio space with a few other SVA alums at the moment.


Before you started The Third Project, you worked together on a few other curatorial ventures, and have organized several other shows. Can you talk a little about your history as co-curators?

Well, we really like to talk. Moreover, we really like to talk about art so we decided to make our conversations worthwhile and empower other artists. We started curating music and art shows in various spaces in Brooklyn as a way to expand our conversations. Above all we think it’s important to hear the artists around us and reinforce that dialogue.


Turning to The Third Project. What’s the idea behind this newest collaborative venture of yours, and how is it different from the projects you’ve done together in the past?

The Third Project emerged as a collaboration to discuss ideas that are not necessarily part of our personal visual practices.

Our process starts wide—usually with really big thoughts. We give ourselves the freedom to let ideas take up space in our minds and share with each other.

It feels very organic and really becomes about connecting artists and executing a conversation. It’s different from past projects because it’s on our terms. There’s no real deadline or rush, so intention becomes the driving factor.


Tell me a little about cloud 9. What’s the idea behind the show, and who are the artists involved?

cloud 9 looks at the notion of paradise with a different gaze. We’re interested in the “mirage” that emerges when one strives to attain the ideal. This mirage is often ambiguous and distant, yet we reach out for it—sometimes relentlessly.

There’s a sort of bargaining that happens here. The artists are all VCS graduates that are in different moments of their careers.


How is curating a group show different from curating a one- or two-person show, and do you have any advice for first-time curators who are organizing one?

The difference between curating a group show and curating a one- or two- person show is the range of perspective. Even when there are connecting threads between artists, no one is thinking about things in the exact same way.

Our advice to first time curators is to give yourself the permission to be as silly or serious with this process as you see fit and no matter what follow through.


What’s it been like returning to SVA to curate a show for VCS?

Well Vic really hasn’t left, so it feels like I (Gabriella) haven’t really left either. It feels really warm and we’re excited to work as a team in this space.


What are your plans for the future of The Third Project?

To keep listening to artists and prioritize voices that aren’t as clearly heard.


Julia Garcia, The Kiss, 30” x 20”, acrylic and gouache on panel, 2019

Visual & Critical Studies